Using the assignment we began on Tuesday, select a quotation from the novel that supports a point you are making.
After selecting the quotation, you are to interpret its meaning and explain how it supports the point you are making.
So you are doing three things:
1. Be sure about the point you are making (based on Tuesday's assignment);
2. Select a quotation that supports that point;
3. Interpret the quotation and explain how it supports your point.
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From the quotations on number one. I also thought that I had nothing to lose. When I first came to collage I thought that I could get though my class work with no problem, because I thought I new all the class work that they were giving. I took a risk of not studing then I didn't pass which it was really shocking to me. Just like in the novel said " Not if you start talking the sort of talk that might get me burnt for my trouble." That quote meet something to me because if I just listing to what I suppose to do and a stead of listing what I think I know. I would of been good and I wouldn't got burnt for my trouble.
“That’s the good part of dying; when you’ve got nothing to lose, you run any risk you want.” This quote show’s that with nothing to lose, dying has a good part to it – running any risks you want. It can be getting books; and risk dying or arrested. Or it can be simply running the risk of dying itself. In this novel, there are many scenes where Mildred show’s she doesn’t care for Montag and in her own way tells him to go kill himself and relieve his stress. In one scene, on pg. 64 Montag says, “Right now I’ve got an awful feeling I want to smash things and kill things.” Mildred replies, “Go take the beetle.” She states that she takes the beetle and drives ninety-five mph and sometimes kills rabbits and dogs. “Go take the beetle.” This quotation show’s that Mildred obviously does not care about her husband Montag. The way she tells Montag to drive around crazily at a speed of ninety-five, when he can actually kill himself; shows how she has not a care in the world for him. Driving through the country at a speed like that, can seriously injure, or kill him. “Go take the beetle,” is telling him to take the car and endanger his life since he’s so overwhelmed by anger and feelings to kill things. Since he doesn’t have anything to lose, she’s telling him to take the risk of killing himself while going on this crazy ride. Mildred says he can kill rabbits, and dogs. She also knows that he can kill himself, and that is why she tells him “Go take the beetle.”
Alyssa DeAngelis
3/8/07
English 073 GA
Professor Sweet
Quotations
“That’s the good part of dying; when you’ve nothing to lose, you run any risk you want.”
Montag didn’t care if he died. He didn’t have much to lose because his wife doesn’t care about him cause she was always watching T.V. and not paying attention to Montag when he was talking to her. So, Montag took a risk and stole a book. This quote is saying that Montag is alone and has nobody to listen to him or even talk too. So, he takes these risks because he has no one to care for him.
Faber closed the Bible. “Well—suppose you tell me why you came here?”
Montag went over to Faber’s house with the book he stole, because he wanted Faber to explain to him what the book meant.
“Nobody listens any more. I can’t talk to the walls because they’re yelling at me. I can’t talk to my wife; she listens to the walls. I just want someone to hear what I have to say. And maybe if I talk long enough, it’ll make sense. And I want you to teach me to understand what I read."
Montag goes over to Faber’s house because for one thing he has nobody to talk too. In this quote it says that he can’t talk to the walls because they are always yelling at him. Which means no matter what Montag is saying, no one is listening to him. This is why Montag goes over to Faber’s house, so that he can help him understand what he is reading.
From the quotation “Why waste your final hours running about your cage denying you’re a squirrel” my interpretation is, Faber felt Montag was like many other people and was willing to act out but had no conviction, and dismissed him and his goals. An interpretable example of analog circumstances can be noticed in the book in Clarisse’s passion for change in others but has little resolve to promote those changes in others. In a way Clarisse inaction is part of the likely experiences that drove Faber to that statement toward Montag. People generally do things that’ll conform to other’s wants because it’s safer and easier, and what Montag was proposing was a revolution. Without a strong trust of someone and an extensive knowledge of their motivations, it’s logical to come to Faber’s conclusion about Montag and react like that.
Marisa Mccrimmon
“Why waste your final hours running about your cage denying you’re a squirrel?”
In the novel there are many characters living their life’s pretending that their lives are something else when it really isn’t. Or complaining about something when they are apart of it and have not done a thing to fix it.
“You weren’t there, you didn’t see,” he said. “There must be something in books, things we can’t imagine, to make a woman stay in a burning house; there must be something there. You don’t stay for nothing”
In the novel Montag talks about how mean and cruel the firemen are when it comes to burning the books down. How their jobs are useless and it has no meaning for what they are doing. On the other hand he is part of it; he still works as a fireman for them. This quote proves that Montag is walking around complaining about how mean the firemen are, when he is still working with them he was there watching the old women burn with her books in the house but he didn’t do anything to help.
“The object he had sent tumbling with his foot now glinted under the edge of his bed. The small crystal bottle of sleeping tablets which earlier today had been filled with thirty capsules and which now lay uncapped and empty in the light of the tiny flare.”
This quote is about Mildred how she is going around acting so happy with her life watching TV all day. When really she is depressed and is lonely in the world. Looking at Mildred actions when she tries to commit suicide but does not successes, it is telling us that something is wrong in her life and that she wants out of it.
“Why waste your final hours running about your cage denying you’re a squirrel”?
Montag do not want to be a fireman anymore he want to stop being uneducated.
Montag and the fireman were always busy doing nothing to past time playing cards, setting off alarm this were there reason to go and burn people house for entertainment.
Captain Beatty stand there with no dignity, standing on the lawn at the old lady house watching with excitement while the old lady burn to ash with her house.
Entertainment for the people in the community is to watch other people houses burn. When a person house is put to flame people run to the scene and watch with enthusiasm. Like watching a rocket ship blasé off to space, the people find it entertaining watching some one house on fire.
“Sometimes I’m ancient. I’m afraid of children of my own age”.
Clarisse act older than her age by her being different the kids her pick with her for being mature.
“People don’t talk about anything.”
When family use to eat dinner together they use to talk about how they day went people took that time to communicate with each other. Now people just eat and run.
Juana Cotui
English 073
Ms.Sweet
“That’s the good part of dying; when you’ve nothing lose, you run any risk you want” (pg85)
When you get tired of the same routine your life is taking and you feel like nobody pays attention to what you have to say or do you need to take another step. There are many people out there that are scared to express themselves but at some point they will get tired or somebody would get them to that point. Your probability would risk a friendship or a job. There are people that get tired of the way the boss treat them so they just crack and don’t think about the consequence.
Like when Montag says “Nobody listens any more. I can’t talk to the walls because they’re yelling at me. I can’t talk to my wife; she listens to the walls. I just want somebody to hear what I have to say. And maybe if I talk long enough, it’ll make sense. And I want you to teach me to understand what I read.” He was tired of being ignored by the people around him. One risk he took was taking a book from the firehouse and taking it to Faber house. Somebody could it see him and gave him away.
In another word you have to try new things in life. Don’t stay in one position because you think that by your age or years in the company they are just going to give you another position. You have to look for more options they are not going to come to you. Risk yourself don’t be scared good things may come from it and you will never find out if you don’t force yourself.
Ahna Kim
ENG 073
Chae Sweet
Thursday, March 08, 2007
Interpretive Question #3
“That’s the good part of dying; when you’ve nothing to lose, you run any risk you want.” This quotation means that when we have nothing to lose, we could run any risk even though the result is death. I think that is true, because when I have nothing, I do whatever I want to do whether it’s risky or not. This quotation tells us Montag’s situation right now. He didn’t care about he is dying, because he thinks that he doesn’t have anybody or anything that he will lose.
On page 82, Montag said, “Nobody listens any more. I can’t talk to the walls because they’re yelling a me. I can’t talk to my wife; she listens to the walls. I just want someone to hear what I have to say—.” All he wants is a person that can listen what he says, but nobody wants to hear. He can’t talk to his wife, he can’t even talk to the walls. So he went to Faber’s house to just talk to him.
Name: Anaseaonline Fahim
Date: March 8, 2007
Instructor: Chae Sweet
Online Assignment
Montag was a fireman who used to burn books at 451 degrees. He is happy by burning books, because it is his job. Montag’s life has been changed partially after he meets claries, the young girl who is seventeen years old. Then Montag’s life has completely converted to a new life after he meets fabor, who was working as an English professor. However, “why waste your final hours running about you cage denying you are a squirrel?” this was Fabor’s comment on Montag’s life.
Montag’s life becomes like a hell after he realizes that burning books was really bad. Montag understood that books are very important, because they have a lot of information, knowledge, and people’s history. Therefore, Montag starts to be craze about reading books. This makes him feel that his past life, his wife, and his wife’s friends are fool. Montag’s and Mildred’s life almost ends because he starts to refuse doing what he used to do. Also because of his wife Mildred Fears and insists to watch the TV. That’s why Fabor’s comment seems to be right about Montag.
Montag could not sleep at this time he was thinking about books and how he can converted the people lives to start read books, because of what they contains from treasures. As the novel mention that TVs are grapping the people’s attention without giving them a chance to think about what they listen to. But books are better because they at least give the reader some information, and facts, but as the same time books help the reader to create his own thinking.
Many things in our lives which grape our attentions, even if this are not important. When we start realize that we wasted our times doing something which is not useful. We get craze and we exert our effort to fix it quickly not gradually or step by step exactly as happened to Montag. For example: I was tiring to convince my friends that my opinion the best because I test a similar problem, but my friends did not listen to me. So this made me Cray, Montag’s life becomes upside down after Fabor and Claries convinced him that what he was doing is a big mistake. Montag tried to change his wife and his wife’s friend life, but they refuse to fellow what he wanted he felt that they are fool. This bothered him and made him crazy. However, this may happens with any one else
“That’s the good part of dying; when you’ve nothing to lost, you run any risk you want. (p.85)
In the novel Fahrenheit 451 Montag felt he had no reason to live. He had nobody to back him up. Montage thinks he’s living in a world of his own, that’s why he started stilling books for the house he would burn. By taking the books he felt he had nothing to lose.” Montag states you can come with me”. (p.39) the reason he said that was to help the older woman so she could stay alive. But she loved her books so much she was willing to die with them, she thought that was a good part of dying; and she had noting to lost, and she took a big risk.
Montage stated “nobody listens any more. I can’t talk to the walls because they’re yelling at me. I can’t talk to my wife; she listens to walls. I just want someone to hear what I have to say. And maybe if I talk long enough, it’ll make sense. And I want you to teach me to understand what I read. The reason for this quote! Montag has nobody to talk to; he thinks his wife is crazy because all she does is talk to the Television. I think he what’s to be heard, and he needs someone to explain the books to him so he would get a batter understanding of what the author is staying.
When you think you have nothing to lose, you start doing crazy things. I dropped out of school when I was sixteen. In a short period of time I had four different jobs, no money to speak of and I felt like I was accomplishing nothing. I regretted that I had dropped out of school. I thought I was doing the right thing but, I ran a risk and I discovered the vale of an education and singed up for classes to get my high school diploma.
Degloria Wilkes 3-8-07
Montog felt the hidden book pond against his chest.
Montag ran a risk by taken and hiding the book. He could lose his job, his wife and house, why would he want to lose everything just for book? The book had know age and he
Wanted to know why they were burning the book and why people were willing to risk their lives for the books. For example the woman who dies for her book he watches her go up in flames with her book. He try to under stands why and what reason would they die for book that he burn for a living, Montog was scare that he might get caught his heart was pounding as the book was next to his chest, but he took a risk anyway .
Even thought Montog did not have anything to do with the woman wanted to die with her books he had compassion for her and his heart went out for her that why he was willing to take the books he wanted to see what was so important in books.
I can relate sometimes you just get so tried a life and you want to change so you might want to take a risk if all fails why not try something new if you are brave enough and how bad you want to change your live, and are willing to take a risk
Crystal Johnson
Chae Sweet
073
3/8/067.
“Those who don’t build must burn. It’s as old as history and juvenile delinquents.”
If you are determined to get some where in life, you must build your goals first. Building goals can get you places, it can get you as far as a career. Think about all the years you spent in school. How was it? Did it make you determined to become something in life. By not building a goal you not only missing out on a career, but not being able to get the good job that you want.
In the novel Fahrenheit 451, the author quotes, “ That was the year I came to class at the start of the new semester and found only one student to sign up for Drama from Aeschylus to O’ Neill.
Attending college can start you on building a goal. What the quote means from the novel is, the author talked about when he was in school. What he means in his quote is that people are not building their goals. He also gives an example of, coming to class at the start of the new semester, only one person signed up for drama from Aeschylus to O’ Neill. The author feels as though people are not giving things a try. They are not encouraging themselves to build on goals, Especially to have a career.
This proves #2, in relation to the novel because, it clearly states that by not building, you are burning. The author suggest that you build goals to get some where in life.
The quotation “ That’s the good part of dying: when you’ve nothing to you run any risk you want”.
This quotation mean when you do not have any reason for stay in this world, you can do any thing that you want. Montag wants to take any risk because he hasn’t anyone who cares him. Also. He feels alone, because his wife is dying and his best friend die long time ago.So, he doesn’t care anymore about himself.
According to the author, Montag say ,“ Nobody listens anymore. I cannot talk to the walls because they’re yelling a me. I cannot talk to my wife; she listens to the walls. I just want someone to hear what I have to say. And maybe if talk long enough, it’ll make sense. I want you to teach me to understand what I read”. ( page 82). Then, Faber say to Montag “ you are running a risk”. (page 85).
This quotation according to the author shows, Montag want to talk with someone and he want this person listens to him, but anyone doesn’t pay attention to him. He feels anybody doesn’t understand him about the books that he is reading.
This quotation refers that Montag has only one thing that it is really important and positive for him,.read books. In the same time read books it is a risk that anyone wants not run. That it is why Montag’s wife doesn’t listen him. Only Faber is the person who can help him in this dangerous adventure, read,listen and understand what books say.
Jennifer Hidalgo
1. Be sure about the point you are making (based on Tuesday's assignment);
“Those who don’t build must burn. It’s as all old as history and juvenile delinquents.” (p.89)
2. Select a quotation that supports that point;
“ With school turning out more runners, jumpers, racers, tinkerers, grabbers, snatchers, fliers, and swimmers instead of examiners, critics, knowers, and imaginative creators, the world ‘intellectual’, of course, became the swear world it deserve to be.”
3. Interpret the quotation and explain how it supports your point.
What is the point in going to school? To acquire knowledge, and the basic education we need to go to college, right? However, not every body goes to school for this reason. There are to type of people that go to school. The ones that want to go because they want to learn, and one day go to college; and the ones that don’t want to go, but their parents force them to. The first group is usually composed by the students that do homework, study, read, etc. The second group is composed by those students that never listen to their professors, never do work, and are trouble makers. Ones are building their future doing what they are required to do; and the others are just destroying it. That is the way it is. There is going to be always the bad ones, and the good ones. The one that follows rules, and the one that does not cares. Why? We don’t know. It has been always like that. We have always had murderers and doctors, delinquents and professionals. Is not a today thing; this has been going on since the beginning. The Bible has it example “Cain and Abel”, even though they were brothers, they were so different. One was a good son, brother, and person; the other was just bad, that was his nature. At the end, the bad one killed the good one. We have the choice in our hands, either build or burn; the good and the bad.
This quote is saying that if school instead of supporting the ones that want to learn, support the ones that don’t want to; by not giving classes only sports, they are going to get rid of the educated (college) people because they don’t have from where to start. If people don’t have stair or elevator (basic education, school) how are they going to get to the second floor (College)?
3. "Those who don't build must burn. It's as old as history and juvenile delinquents."
I can relate to this root metaphor; meaning is the underlying association that shapes an individual's understanding of a situation.
(www.answers.com/metaphor)
Right now after recently graduation high school, going to be a year in June. I was expected that going to college would be.. Well not exactly but just a little bit similar like high school but my thoughts was wrong.
After high school, I was now self-contained which is frightful for me until I took it upon myself to be on my own, meaning I left my main home, have a job and struggling in school. Now I'm all lost mentally because of my pride, and oath.
I can no longer maintain positive thought because I fear of not having what I desire in the future: a decent full-time job; Master degree; an intensive apartment or a loft; all those luxuries that my mother have, I want the same but better.
I'm basically burning my ego because I don't have my motivation no more, I'm terrified that I won't make it. There are times that I had motivated myself in doing simple stuff for now, it's no big deal such as working, it's nothing but at least I get paid and gain experiences. I fear of rejection which I know that is life and sometimes I take the punches but if I constantly have any rejection to whatever the case may be, I'll discontinue myself.
To Martha I fully understand how the story went, but what you was trying to describe your life as an example, to me, didn't make sense. The facts about what happen to you didnt concur to what was written in the quote. You didn't explain the RISKS and/or the explain about having anything to lose.
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