A blog for my Basic English III course at Hudson County Community College. Both students and I will be posting comments, questions, and general thoughts on this site.
Tuesday, February 27, 2007
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The pivotal scene in the book when montag walked to the kitchen and threw the book down. " Montag," he said," you're really stupid. Where do we go from here? Do we turn the books in, forget it? " he opened the book to read over mildred laugther.
An additional scene that strengthen the novel when Montag team up with Faber to print extra books and arrange to have them hidden in firemen's houses. " Montag plant the books, turn the alarm, and watch the firemen's houses burn down this action is sucide Montag didn't care he was willing to make a change. Montag is now eager for knowledge
In the being, starting form page 71 Montag was reading to his wife Mildred nervously. While Montag was reading he was looking for closure of what happened to Clarisse. While discussing the book to his wife he heard scratching at his door. To there surprise it was the mechanical dog. Once the dog was gone they continued there conversation about the book. Mildred who had no interest in books told Montag that books where not people, and they where not fun. Mildred Montage’s wife explained to him that the television made her happy. Montag then told his wife that it was another part of her that was not happy (the part that tried to kill herself.) He then told her that it was not all about laughs and fun it’s about fear, war, and the woman who burned herself and her house, Clarisse McClellan, and the bombers in the sky. “Why doesn’t someone want to talk about it”? After this Mildred got a phone call. So, Montag begin talking to himself; reading passages from the book he begins to feel sorry for his wife. Then he felt sorry himself because he didn’t understand them either. After he thought to himself who can teach him to understand what he was reading. He remembered Faber a Professor he had met a year ago. Montag went to Faber’s house. While he was on the subway he held the bible in his hand for the public to see. When he realized he was caring it in his hand. He thought may be if he read it fast then he might be able to memorize some of the words, But he couldn’t because the son ton the train for Denham’s Dental detergent was disturbing his thinking process. When he got to Faber’s house Faber was supious of letting him come in. When Faber did let him come in he was surprised to see the Bible. Faber then begin to ask questions, he asked him how did Montag become so shaken up, How did he become the way he was. Montag only responded with a question asking Faber could books help him? Faber told him yes if he followed 3 steps. Take the books under the microscope and leisure to digest and put it into action. Montag begin making plans. Faber discovered what Montag was up to and didn’t want to help him. Montag started damaging the bible and Faber changed his mind
Comparing issues in "Fahrenheit 415" to the real world today.
In “Fahrenheit 415” Montag has concerns about American hubris and greed blocking out international problems from local relevance. He’s stated,” We’ve started and won two atomic wars since 1990, Is it because we’re having so much fun at home we’ve forgotten the world? Is it because we’re so rich and the rest of the world is so poor and we just don’t care if they are. I heard rumors; the world is starving, but we’re well fed.” Many of those same concerns are expressed today. Today many people have grave concern about US international policy and fearful of a lack of mainstream interest. In regard to Montag’s questions on national strength leading to hubris isolationism has parallelsthat can drawn to real life. With many of the similar political debates of today, like the argument our political and military absence after winning the Korea War and WWII allowed the current status of North Korea and Afghanistan. It’s an example of modern life being predicted in fiction from the past. Montag’s guesses on the economic differences between the US and the rest of world is felt even now in the real world. We can’t turn on a TV without an advertisement of “Save the Children” whose primary message is how much good 80 cents a day can do for a child in a third-world country, persuading money out of us to help others. And, In many cases those countries are in wars that concern many of our more outspoken Americans dedicated to brining these powerful international issues to the forefront of American consciousness. As oppose to, in “Fahrenheit 451” Montag was just one man trying to figure out where he was in the world and learning what makes him happy posing such time traveling questions. Montag’s concerns also extended to international dietary troubles comparing him being well fed while the rest of the world starves. Today it is also a common belief in our home that we throw away so much food that we could feed a small village. This belief is so well received by people many parents will use that statement as a child rearing technique to simply convince children to eat all of there food and grow up healthy. In conclusion, the author was really on to something and could be considered a futurist with a story to tell to our generation, fifty years away. His narrative depiction through exposition of isolationism in precognitive proportions is somewhat of a punch in the gut reality check. His character’s speculation of his international economic status as compared to his US is a dead on time traveling comparisons of today’s third world and first world economic concerns people of today willfully disregard. There are clear comparisons to today in that book of national wealth and resource abundance shielding the people from the truth of the world until it started closing in on them through war. With most of the people walking around knowingly blind to that possibility. Thereby, dooming themselves and others affected by their willful ignorance just as it’s depicted in Fahrenheit 451. Makes you wonder are we heading to the same future as in that book?
I'm a writing professor at Hudson County Community College. I have been teaching here for about 10 years, and I love working with the eclectic bunch of students I meet each semester.
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The pivotal scene in the book when montag walked to the kitchen and threw the book down. " Montag," he said," you're really stupid. Where do we go from here? Do we turn the books in, forget it? " he opened the book to read over mildred laugther.
An additional scene that strengthen the novel when Montag team up with Faber to print extra books and arrange to have them hidden in firemen's houses. " Montag plant the books, turn the alarm, and watch the firemen's houses burn down this action is sucide Montag didn't care he was willing to make a change. Montag is now eager for knowledge
Bykera Simmons
Page 71-93
In the being, starting form page 71 Montag was reading to his wife Mildred nervously. While Montag was reading he was looking for closure of what happened to Clarisse. While discussing the book to his wife he heard scratching at his door. To there surprise it was the mechanical dog. Once the dog was gone they continued there conversation about the book.
Mildred who had no interest in books told Montag that books where not people, and they where not fun. Mildred Montage’s wife explained to him that the television made her happy. Montag then told his wife that it was another part of her that was not happy (the part that tried to kill herself.) He then told her that it was not all about laughs and fun it’s about fear, war, and the woman who burned herself and her house, Clarisse McClellan, and the bombers in the sky. “Why doesn’t someone want to talk about it”? After this Mildred got a phone call. So, Montag begin talking to himself; reading passages from the book he begins to feel sorry for his wife.
Then he felt sorry himself because he didn’t understand them either. After he thought to himself who can teach him to understand what he was reading. He remembered Faber a Professor he had met a year ago. Montag went to Faber’s house. While he was on the subway he held the bible in his hand for the public to see.
When he realized he was caring it in his hand. He thought may be if he read it fast then he might be able to memorize some of the words, But he couldn’t because the son ton the train for Denham’s Dental detergent was disturbing his thinking process. When he got to Faber’s house Faber was supious of letting him come in. When Faber did let him come in he was surprised to see the Bible. Faber then begin to ask questions, he asked him how did Montag become so shaken up, How did he become the way he was. Montag only responded with a question asking Faber could books help him? Faber told him yes if he followed 3 steps. Take the books under the microscope and leisure to digest and put it into action. Montag begin making plans. Faber discovered what Montag was up to and didn’t want to help him. Montag started damaging the bible and Faber changed his mind
Comparing issues in "Fahrenheit 415" to the real world today.
In “Fahrenheit 415” Montag has concerns about American hubris and greed blocking out international problems from local relevance. He’s stated,” We’ve started and won two atomic wars since 1990, Is it because we’re having so much fun at home we’ve forgotten the world? Is it because we’re so rich and the rest of the world is so poor and we just don’t care if they are. I heard rumors; the world is starving, but we’re well fed.” Many of those same concerns are expressed today. Today many people have grave concern about US international policy and fearful of a lack of mainstream interest.
In regard to Montag’s questions on national strength leading to hubris isolationism has parallelsthat can drawn to real life. With many of the similar political debates of today, like the argument our political and military absence after winning the Korea War and WWII allowed the current status of North Korea and Afghanistan. It’s an example of modern life being predicted in fiction from the past.
Montag’s guesses on the economic differences between the US and the rest of world is felt even now in the real world. We can’t turn on a TV without an advertisement of “Save the Children” whose primary message is how much good 80 cents a day can do for a child in a third-world country, persuading money out of us to help others. And, In many cases those countries are in wars that concern many of our more outspoken Americans dedicated to brining these powerful international issues to the forefront of American consciousness. As oppose to, in “Fahrenheit 451” Montag was just one man trying to figure out where he was in the world and learning what makes him happy posing such time traveling questions.
Montag’s concerns also extended to international dietary troubles comparing him being well fed while the rest of the world starves. Today it is also a common belief in our home that we throw away so much food that we could feed a small village. This belief is so well received by people many parents will use that statement as a child rearing technique to simply convince children to eat all of there food and grow up healthy.
In conclusion, the author was really on to something and could be considered a futurist with a story to tell to our generation, fifty years away. His narrative depiction through exposition of isolationism in precognitive proportions is somewhat of a punch in the gut reality check. His character’s speculation of his international economic status as compared to his US is a dead on time traveling comparisons of today’s third world and first world economic concerns people of today willfully disregard. There are clear comparisons to today in that book of national wealth and resource abundance shielding the people from the truth of the world until it started closing in on them through war. With most of the people walking around knowingly blind to that possibility. Thereby, dooming themselves and others affected by their willful ignorance just as it’s depicted in Fahrenheit 451. Makes you wonder are we heading to the same future as in that book?
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